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Katharine B Kerr ([personal profile] aberwyn) wrote2010-03-25 12:36 pm

Can we do anything?

One way to stop the rise of fascism in this country is, of course, to vote for sane people, not nutcases, regardless of party. However, a lot of people did that in the last election and we are still stuck with the Ravin' Radio and the Tea Parties.

One non-violent way of doing something might be to find out the sponsors of demagogues like Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, and that dippy woman whose name my mind refuses to hold on to, Marilee Morgan ??? I think. The trouble is, finding out who sponsors them means listening to their shows. I'm too old for the strain on my heart and have a weak stomach, too, alas, but if someone else wanted to post a list, I'd send email.

Anyway, if enough people write to the sponsors threatening to never buy their goods or services as long as they are paying for the death of democracy, it could well have an effect.

Starbucks, for instance, now refuses to allow those guys carrying unloaded guns into their coffee shops in the Bay Area, because so many customers complained.

On a fantasy-fiction note, maybe we should allow a certain number of Tea Party states to secede, as their proponents want. Since these tend to be the poorest states in the nation, without the taxes from the "liberal" areas of this country, they'd find themselves mired in poverty and lacking an army, navy, and air force -- real fast. We could offer the decent people in those States asylum elsewhere of course. :-)

The really ironic thing is that the states with the most Teabagger action are the states who get the most federal aid. Some of them in fact get as must as 129% of the amount of federal taxes they pay -back- in federal aid. States like California get somewhere around 70% back, is all. Yet the Teabaggers insist they don't want "big government". Without it they'd be drowning.

[identity profile] touchstone.livejournal.com 2010-03-25 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
South Carolina is a popular choice. I figure they can have it. Charleston's a nice town, but we can do without it :)

[identity profile] aberwyn.livejournal.com 2010-03-25 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Another huge irony: the Republican legislators busily undermining and delaying the health bill get free, total health care for themselves and their families at taxpayer expense.

[identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com 2010-03-25 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Michelle Malkin.

Marilee Morgan is from your past: she wrote The Total Woman in the 1970s (I think). That was the book which was famous for recommending that you greet your husband at the door when he comes home from work, dressed only in plastic wrap.

[identity profile] mizkit.livejournal.com 2010-03-25 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
...that would be really sweaty and sticky and uncomfortable, I'd think. o.O

[identity profile] aberwyn.livejournal.com 2010-03-25 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I knew I wasn't remembering her right.

Ah yes, the TOTALLED WOMAN, as I used to call it . . . that and FASCINATING BIRDHOOD by someone else whose name my aged brain refuses to recall.

[identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
Oh dear god, Fascinating Womanhood. I used to check that out from the local library and HOWL.

My French Lit class was studying Victor Hugo, and I brought it to class so I could show everyone how amazingly imbecilic FW's take on one of Hugo's "heroines" was. Everybody howled.

[identity profile] kateelliott.livejournal.com 2010-03-25 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, what I was going to say. I will never forget the plastic wrap thing.
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[personal profile] mithriltabby 2010-03-25 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Media Matters for America will watch the lunatics so you don’t have to, and debunk their claims. Color of Change have been running a campaign to get companies to stop advertising on Glenn Beck’s show which has been rather successful thus far.

Ultimately, sane people have to raise their voices to be heard above the clash of extremists. I grew up with the notion that it was impolite to discuss politics because it tended to lead to acrimony; I have since decided that that attitude cedes the field to the people who still discuss politics, so I have taken up being vocal about issues.

There are subtle ways one can go about these things. My wife’s uncle, for instance, is fairly conservative, but when I sent one of his daughters How to Lie with Statistics as a Yule present before going to college, he read it and really liked it, so I’ve been sending him reality-based fact-checking and policy books for Yule ever since. When he mentioned on the phone that he liked Glenn Beck, I said “Better keep factcheck.org and politifact.com handy, ’cos that guy does not do his research”, and about a month later he complained to my wife that he didn’t like Beck much any more. When his wife was worried about terrorists taking over America, I explained why that was strategically infeasible and sent her a copy of Bruce Schneier’s Beyond Fear.

I haven’t tried playing on the family’s Christian views by sending Cornel West books to any of them yet... might be overdoing it...

[identity profile] aberwyn.livejournal.com 2010-03-25 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks very much for the links!

You have far more patience than I. Actually I did try, years ago, to wean a few of my relatives, like my mother, away from the Weird Right, which wasn't even this extreme back then. The more reasonable I was the less they listened.

So I quite agree with the need to raise one's voice.

[identity profile] kateelliott.livejournal.com 2010-03-25 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That strikes me as exactly the right tack to take with your uncle.


Color of Change is a nice campaign.
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[personal profile] mithriltabby 2010-03-25 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I figure the low-hanging fruit is to give people a chance to understand when they’re being hoodwinked— once they understand they’re being lied to, they may open their minds to new possibilities.

[identity profile] 6-penny.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Hearing Newt today say that shile he deplored the violence the democratic leaders partially brought it on themselves .etc etc..almost caused me to need health insurance for the high blood pressure spike. And I was driving at the time.\
That's right Newt - blame the victim.

[identity profile] aberwyn.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
And a shout-out to Rep. Cantor, (R), who also appeared on the news saying that using threats of violence to influence the political process is "reprehensible".

Gingrich is, as always, a hypocritical arsehole.

[identity profile] aberwyn.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Michelle Malkin is the person who announced that Nancy Pelosi had "a red target painted between her big brown eyes". A local fellow recorded this off the radio and sent the tape to her primary sponsor, Bank of America, which screeched and removed its sponsorship posthaste. Malkin threatened to sue and tried to claim she was only speaking "metaphorically," not inciting to murder, but nothing came of her lawsuit IF I remember rightly.

This is what gave me the idea of writing to Limbutt's sponsors. It can work.